http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 en-US 60 <p>hi all,<br /> <br /> today is the 1st Jan 09.......happy new year!<br /> <br /> and today, i received my new year present.......I MANAGED TO PULL BACK MY FORESKIN ALL THE WAY!!!!!!! OMFG!!!!!! :-O<br /> <br /> it was somewhat accidental, though. What happened today was:<br /> <br /> -i watched lots of porn and masturbate as usual; usually this lasts for 1.5+ hours but i took like 3 hours today<br /> <br /> -after i'm done, i played around with my penis a bit (in it's fully non-erect state) and tried to see how far i can stretch for fun<br /> <br /> -previously, when my penis is in fully non-erect state, i can stretch the foreskin back just a little bit (less than 0.2 cm)<br /> <br /> -today, i tried to test the limit of the stretching, so i tried to pull it back a bit more<br /> <br /> -and a bit more.....and then it retracted back by 0.6 cm<br /> <br /> -i was excited, so i tried a bit more, but then it stopped<br /> <br /> -at that time, the thought of pain + circumcision + S$2500 surgery fee came into my head, and i knew i couldn't give up<br /> <br /> -so i tried harder and told myself "even if bleed, so what? skin only mah, bleed bleed loh! heck care!"<br /> <br /> -with that, i used both my fingers of both hands to tug at both sides of the foreskin and pull them sideways (left fingers pull left part of foreskin sideways, and right fingers pull right part of foreskin sideways). Then, with that, both fingers proceed to pull down the foreskin.<br /> (pull sideways to expand the foreskin and loosen it a little, then pull everything down)<br /> <br /> -because my foreskin is very tight, now that i pull it down, it won't go back to previously (normal state) again. The big "band" around the penis forehead prevents the foreskin from sliding back to previous state. So, now, it's like my foreskin is exposed all the time.<br /> <br /> -of course, i can still retract back to previously as normal, but for now, i wanna keep it this way to let the head be used to the rubbing of the underwear. Now, the head is very sensitive and everything i used my fingers to stroke the head, I kinda shiver due to the sensitivity<br /> <br /> -as for pain, it's not really pain; more like uncomfortability due to very sensitive skin (shower and water are no problem; but actual touching with hands is very sensitive)<br /> <br /> I've some questions for those of you guys who are knowledgeable about this:<br /> <br /> <span style="color: #0000ff;">1) There's some greyish-white "dust" thing below the "band" area. You guys have it too?<br /> <br /> 2) How long does it take for that sensitivity to go away?<br /> <br /> 3) Should I always keep my penis in this retracted state? Looks kinda cool to me. X-D<br /> <br /> 4) Now that my skin has been fully exposed and I get erect, the frenulum area is kinda tight though. I can feel the frenulum gripping the penis very tightly. You guys feel the same? It's kinda uncomfortable, seriously. Not sure if I will get used to this.<br /></span><br /> So, I guess, my problem is just tight foreskin, and not true phimosis (true phimosis is whereby the foreskin really can't retract at all).<br /> For those who're experiencing similar problems, maybe you could try what I did.<br /> <br /> Just use lubricant if needed (if you don't want to watch porn), and be sure to retract the foreskin when the penis is in fully NON-ERECT state. If you try to retract it during erect state, I'm sure there'll really be blood.</p> <p>Happy New Year 2009!</p> Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:01:18 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8711638 Nikar 3 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by antievildoer:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> Been away for quite sometime and notice there's been quite a discussion on this during my absence.. As with all surgical procedures, there are always pros and cons to it...results of procedure can vary in different people even though it is the same procedure..some people who had the same procedure might had it good while some might not..sometimes it also depend on who is the one carrying out the procedure.. I have read quite a lot of testimonies from both groups of people who did preputioplasty and circumcision...for both procedures, some reported excellent results, some did not..while one of us might report unpleasant results with preputioplasty here, it doesn't mean it will be bad for all people..I too have read quite a few accounts of people who said they fully regretted going for circumcision for various reasons..having said tat, I dun think any conclusions can really be drawn as to which procedure is definitely better..sometimes it really depends on your priorities and preferences for certain things.. Some say the appearance(circumcised penis always said to look better according to most people) is more impt while some dun really care abt tat..in anycase, most intact men dun really complain abt that foreskin hanging around makin their manhood look ugly, do they? I will have a check up at Dr Ho's place and a thorough dicussion with him on the pros and cons before deciding what I would go for.. Thanks for everyone's input by the way...really appreciate it..</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I say if u are comfortable with your foreskin then leave it.</p> Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:34:15 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8670343 natas666 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p><a href= "http://www.find-health-articles.com/rec_pub_16541003-preputioplasty-treatment-phimosis-pediatric-age-indications-results.htm" rel= "nofollow">http://www.find-health-articles.com/rec_pub_165…</a></p> <p>Read this article and the conclusion part..</p> Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:37:15 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8658994 antievildoer http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Nikar 3:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>yeah, i think circumcision is still a better choice than Preputioplasty.</p> <p>i have seen pics of Preputioplasty whereby there's some kind of skin hanging around the penis head area like a rooster's throat.</p> <p>circumcision will let your penis look like a porn star's.</p> <p>btw, dr. ho in his latest e-mail told me that with laser circumcision, there will be no scars and the head area will look really fine and smooth.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Been away for quite sometime and notice there's been quite a discussion on this during my absence.. As with all surgical procedures, there are always pros and cons to it...results of procedure can vary in different people even though it is the same procedure..some people who had the same procedure might had it good while some might not..sometimes it also depend on who is the one carrying out the procedure.. I have read quite a lot of testimonies from both groups of people who did preputioplasty and circumcision...for both procedures, some reported excellent results, some did not..while one of us might report unpleasant results with preputioplasty here, it doesn't mean it will be bad for all people..I too have read quite a few accounts of people who said they fully regretted going for circumcision for various reasons..having said tat, I dun think any conclusions can really be drawn as to which procedure is definitely better..sometimes it really depends on your priorities and preferences for certain things.. Some say the appearance(circumcised penis always said to look better according to most people) is more impt while some dun really care abt tat..in anycase, most intact men dun really complain abt that foreskin hanging around makin their manhood look ugly, do they? I will have a check up at Dr Ho's place and a thorough dicussion with him on the pros and cons before deciding what I would go for.. Thanks for everyone's input by the way...really appreciate it..</p> Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:17:44 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8658945 antievildoer http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Nikar 3:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>thanks, but if you leave the frenulum without the skin protection, then&nbsp; wouldn't it be painful? especially if it's being stretched or rubbed etc......whenever i think of the frenulum snapping, my goose pimples all come out.....eek....</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>My frenulum is still intact &amp; I have no problems with it. I guess it depends individually.</p> Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:41:30 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8613114 natas666 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>thanks, but if you leave the frenulum without the skin protection, then&nbsp; wouldn't it be painful? especially if it's being stretched or rubbed etc......whenever i think of the frenulum snapping, my goose pimples all come out.....eek....</p> Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:59:43 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8595015 Nikar 3 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Nikar 3:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>thanks, but any disvantages to low-cut?</p> <p>equally important is that the penis must look nice after cutting.</p> <p>btw, did you cut your frenulum too?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I don't see any disadvantage with low-cut. I personally think it's better.</p> <p>DO NOT cut your frenulum. There are a lot of nerves there. U will be less sensitive if you do.</p> Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:12:49 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8594255 natas666 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>thanks, but any disvantages to low-cut?</p> <p>equally important is that the penis must look nice after cutting.</p> <p>btw, did you cut your frenulum too?</p> Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:44:49 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8594060 Nikar 3 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Nikar 3:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>i think on average, the traditional circumcision costs less than S$900.....more like in the range of S$600 - $800.</p> <p>laser ones costs S$1500 - S$2000 (i'm going for this).</p> <p>also, i'm not sure how to use medishield and medisave to subsidize this......is it even possible? if so, how do we go about it? i don't even know what exactly is medishield and medisave and how do we apply it.</p> <p>as for cutting (moderate / low / tight circumcision etc.), i probably will be going for moderate, but i'll need to consult dr. ho first. :-D</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I would advise u to consider low cut. When my penis is flacid I still have some foreskin that will cover the head. It's better this way.</p> Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:48:38 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8587392 natas666 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by bent:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>woah, i didn't know that phimosis was not so rare after all!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>tot only a minority gets it...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>anyway, i feel so 'suay' la...must go get cut...haiz</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>so, when u going?</p> Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:18:43 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8550125 Nikar 3 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>woah, i didn't know that phimosis was not so rare after all!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>tot only a minority gets it...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>anyway, i feel so 'suay' la...must go get cut...haiz</p> Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:54:09 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8548983 bent http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>i think on average, the traditional circumcision costs less than S$900.....more like in the range of S$600 - $800.</p> <p>laser ones costs S$1500 - S$2000 (i'm going for this).</p> <p>also, i'm not sure how to use medishield and medisave to subsidize this......is it even possible? if so, how do we go about it? i don't even know what exactly is medishield and medisave and how do we apply it.</p> <p>as for cutting (moderate / low / tight circumcision etc.), i probably will be going for moderate, but i'll need to consult dr. ho first. :-D</p> Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:12:57 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8548704 Nikar 3 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <p><br /></p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Nikar 3:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>yeah, i think circumcision is still a better choice than Preputioplasty.</p> <p>i have seen pics of Preputioplasty whereby there's some kind of skin hanging around the penis head area like a rooster's throat.</p> <p>circumcision will let your penis look like a porn star's.</p> <p>btw, dr. ho in his latest e-mail told me that with laser circumcision, there will be no scars and the head area will look really fine and smooth.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I also got phimosis(when flaccid whole head is covered), can share how much is all the fees and how much would medishield/medisave covers?</p> <p>what sort of cutting are u going for ?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:22:08 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8548212 xfool http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>no, we don't. :D</p> <p>it was mentioned earlier in this thread, because it's really uncomfortable.</p> <p>do you go to your mom and say things like, "mom, my foreskin is too tight and i want to cut it." :D</p> Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:31:11 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8543256 Nikar 3 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>just a quick qn..do u guys talk to your parents abt this?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>i feel uncomfortable broaching this topic to them...even to my dad, coz we are not the types that discuss abt sex openly...</p> Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:15:24 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8542439 bent http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>yeah, i think circumcision is still a better choice than Preputioplasty.</p> <p>i have seen pics of Preputioplasty whereby there's some kind of skin hanging around the penis head area like a rooster's throat.</p> <p>circumcision will let your penis look like a porn star's.</p> <p>btw, dr. ho in his latest e-mail told me that with laser circumcision, there will be no scars and the head area will look really fine and smooth.</p> Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:35:26 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8540059 Nikar 3 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>I would like to add my experience with <strong><strong>Preputioplasty</strong></strong> to the discussion. It has not exactly been all positive. I had at age 18 and because. My foreskin could be pulled back, but it was very tight when errect and it hurt too much for sex. The operation was quick and easy (and free in my country) and I waited 6 weeks for it to heal. One problem that soon became clear was that my foreskin would not stay and cover the head. It just retracted by itself, which left my glans unprotected (quite uncomfortable in the beginning, but I got used to it) Another problem was that after the operation I saw that a there was a quite large swelling under the skin below the penis head. Around 20 milimeters (2/3 inch) in diameter I guess. I went to see my doctor and and he told me, that it would go away. And it did. But unfortunately the swelling had expanded the skin. It's not that much, but it makes a strange kind of "collar" around the head.</p> <p>So for the past 9 years I've had this loose part of the foreskin hanging under the penis and I've had not skin to cover my glans. This DOES make it more insensitive and it looks a bit dry. I'm now going to talk to my physician about this and I hope that I can have the loose part of skin removed, since it kinds hurts my self confidence that I look different down there :) So please consider that the operation can have complication. I wish I had NOT done it and had tried the 'manual' methods in stead. But of course you will not have that choice if your condition makes it impossible.</p> <p>Good luck whatever you guys choose to do!</p> Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:20:27 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8539346 designerx http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>Hi, I'm 20 and I have a few questions to ask of my own too.&nbsp;I have considered going for circumcision 2 years back because I couldn't retract my foreskin before too. After seeing the specialist, he told me that i just need to gradually pull back and&nbsp;stretch it and I should be able to retract it fully eventually. Thankfully, it happened and now I can retract it fully with ease. But, the problem now is I'm able to retract it fully ONLY when it is flaccid. When it is erect, I'm not able to retract the foreskin&nbsp;fully. Only the top head of the glans is exposed when I tried pulling it back.&nbsp;Beyond that, it is all pain.</p> <p>So my questions are, is my condition considered a mild one? Do you guys&nbsp;think I require circumcision? I've also done research on preputioplasty&nbsp;2 years&nbsp;ago but I have always thought Singapore hasn't had the technology to perform such an operation, until now...</p> Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:47:49 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8517176 -Wanderer- http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>hi all,</p> <p>i've made up my mind to go for circumcision this coming Dec.....maybe early Dec or mid Dec......the earlier the better.......otherwise every now and then worry about this problem.</p> <p>i'll be contacting dr. lau for more details and appointment fixing, and when the op eventually gets done, i'll let you guys know the results. :)</p> <p>btw, for those guys who got circumcised in adulthood (plsdunbanme, natas666 etc.).....you guys didn't cut off the frenulum, right?</p> <p>i'm thinking of cutting it off cos' when the penis is erect, the frenulum stretches tightly on the underside of the penis and it's kinda gross to look at...........dunno why, but when i see the frenulum being stretched on an erect penis on online websites, it kinda gives me the creeps and lots of goose bumps.</p> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:15:55 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8515226 Nikar 3 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by bent:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>was it painful while having sex before circumcision?&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>so which is more pleasurable? b4 circumcision or after?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Before the operation, if I don't pull back my foreskin it's not painful when I have sex but it's not pleasurable as the head of my penis is not exposed. If I pull it back the foreskin is very tight around the penis head and it's not comfortable. I wouldn't say it's painful.</p> <p>After the operation it was great. My penis head is a lot sensitive. I love it!</p> Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:51:54 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8474991 natas666 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by natas666:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><span>...</span>I have done. I was circumcised when I was 18 yrs old. I had <strong>sex</strong> before I was circumcised &amp; it was not as great as after the op. Before the op my foreskin was not pulled back when I was having <strong>sex</strong> and it wasn't as sensitive as after I was circumcised.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>was it painful while having sex before circumcision?&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>so which is more pleasurable? b4 circumcision or after?</p> Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:32:53 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8468954 bent http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Agenda:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Before anyone of you go for dratic measure, go read up more on PHONY PHIMOSIS</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>For me it was the best thing I have done. I was circumcised when I was 18 yrs old. I had sex before I was circumcised &amp; it was not as great as after the op. Before the op my foreskin was not pulled back when I was having sex and it wasn't as sensitive as after I was circumcised.</p> Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:15:01 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8461896 natas666 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>Before anyone of you go for dratic measure, go read up more on PHONY PHIMOSIS</p> Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:33:09 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8461794 Agenda http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by lysy:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>actually i was circumcised with the gomco clam at age 6-7 and i tured out very nice....... my circumcision is tight and the scar is jus below the dick head lol..<br /> <br /> as for phimosis i was mainly circumcised because of this circumcision is always the best i fell all my brothers and cousins young and old are circumcised.<br /> <br /> my second youngest bro jus got cirumcised in june age 7 and it was done with a lazer the circumcision is abt the same as mine so i am not so sure if there is a difference.<br /> <br /> i have actually been asked in sch abt my circumcision and i found out that abt 10 boys in my class of 40 are cired so i guess the circumcision rate in singapore is moderatly high (note; only 2 out of the 10 boys are muslim, the rest are amarican, chinese and eurasian)</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I disagree on a 'tight' circumcision as it's better to have some skin covering the gland of the penis when your penis is flaccid. This helps protects the gland. And the frenum of the penis should never be removed. There's a lot of nerves there and removing the frenum will decrease sensitivity.</p> Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:04:33 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8461363 natas666 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428 <p>sorry i meant i was circumcised because of that <strong>condition</strong> (phimosis).</p> Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:41:19 +0800 www.sgforums.com:1991:323428:8461169 lysy http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1991/topics/323428