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  • Detached's Avatar
    4,654 posts since Sep '04
    • The Official IQ Questions Thread - Please do not use the internet for answers icon_biggrin.gif

       

      There is a weighing balance and 12 balls. The 12 balls all look the same from the outside, but 1 weighs a little different from the other 11.

      Using the weighing balance not more than 3 times, find out which is the odd ball and whether it is lighter or heavier :P

       

      Edit: I obviously have forgotten to state that forum trolls aren't welcome icon_lol.gif

      Edited by Detached 03 Sep `08, 9:35PM
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    13,745 posts since Jun '07
  • SBS n SMRT's Avatar
    1,804 posts since Mar '08
    • bus 555 is standing behind Daisuke-kun and Daisuki-kun is standing behing bus 555, and idea how???

  • Fs4751's Avatar
    348 posts since May '08
    • Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:

      attach to ur own balls and see if tear or not icon_lol.gif


      KNs use own balls!!tongue.png

      later no more balls liow..!..

      then use marbles to replace..!

  • Daisuke-kun's Avatar
    13,745 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:

      bus 555 is standing behind Daisuke-kun and Daisuki-kun is standing behing bus 555, and idea how???

      because Daisuke-kun and Daisuki-kun are 2 different people icon_lol.gif

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    parn's Avatar
    4,456 posts since May '03
    • Put all 12 balls on the weighing balance, get the total weight, then take out each ball from the weighing balance one at a time.

      By doing so, you will be able to get the weight of each removed balls from the weight difference in the before removing and after removing each balls.

      So you will be able to know which ball weigh different from the rest.

       

      But why need to use the weight balance for more than 3 times? 1 time enough le......

  • and chips 嫂
    ChoCoChips's Avatar
    7,318 posts since Jun '06
    • put 6 balls a side, the heavier one is what we want.

      divide the heavier group into 2 groups of 3.

      den weigh again, and there'll be a heavier side again.

      den from that side, pick 2 random balls and weigh them against each other.

      if 2 same weight, the one left behind heavier lo.

      if 2 no same weight, den obviously the heavier one is there.

      hurhur

  • MohamedF's Avatar
    4,439 posts since May '06
    • Originally posted by ChoCoChips:

      put 6 balls a side, the heavier one is what we want.

      divide the heavier group into 2 groups of 3.

      den weigh again, and there'll be a heavier side again.

      den from that side, pick 2 random balls and weigh them against each other.

      if 2 same weight, the one left behind heavier lo.

      if 2 no same weight, den obviously the heavier one is there.

      hurhur

      Clap hands... icon_biggrin.gif

  • and chips 嫂
    ChoCoChips's Avatar
    7,318 posts since Jun '06
  • Chris1988's Avatar
    1,287 posts since Dec '06
    • Originally posted by ChoCoChips:


      thank you thank you icon_redface.gif

      got prize anot?


      but if the heavier one is on the weighing scale with the other, can you identify which is the heavier one? sad.png

  • Beautiful951's Avatar
    2,423 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by ChoCoChips:


      thank you thank you icon_redface.gif

      got prize anot?


      How to send you over the net

  • and chips 嫂
    ChoCoChips's Avatar
    7,318 posts since Jun '06
    • Originally posted by Chris1988:


      but if the heavier one is on the weighing scale with the other, can you identify which is the heavier one? sad.png


      eh i dunno abt u la but i ish use eyes see which one is lower.

      because the lower one is obviously the heavier one?!

      hmmm.. any weighing expert care to shed some light?

  • Chris1988's Avatar
    1,287 posts since Dec '06
    • Originally posted by ChoCoChips:


      eh i dunno abt u la but i ish use eyes see which one is lower.

      because the lower one is obviously the heavier one?!

      hmmm.. any weighing expert care to shed some light?


      solli i thought is use weighing machine. if its a weighing scale i think you're right sad.png

  • MohamedF's Avatar
    4,439 posts since May '06
    • Originally posted by ChoCoChips:


      thank you thank you icon_redface.gif

      got prize anot?

      I onli audience... but I gib u present aniways... smile.png

  • and chips 嫂
    ChoCoChips's Avatar
    7,318 posts since Jun '06
    • Originally posted by Chris1988:


      solli i thought is use weighing machine. if its a weighing scale i think you're right sad.png


      i oso scared i wrong sad.png

      hurhur

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,263 posts since Jul '07
    • let's up the question...

      if there is 27 balls, and only 1 of them is heavier by 1 gram, the rest all the same weight, how do you see which ball is heavier by using a balance scale 3 times only?

  • Chris1988's Avatar
    1,287 posts since Dec '06
    • Originally posted by skythewood:

      let's up the question...

      if there is 27 balls, and only 1 of them is heavier by 1 gram, the rest all the same weight, how do you see which ball is heavier by using a balance scale 3 times only?


      is there a logical answer to this? sad.png

  • Detached's Avatar
    4,654 posts since Sep '04
    • Originally posted by parn:

      Put all 12 balls on the weighing balance, get the total weight, then take out each ball from the weighing balance one at a time.

      By doing so, you will be able to get the weight of each removed balls from the weight difference in the before removing and after removing each balls.

      So you will be able to know which ball weigh different from the rest.

       

      But why need to use the weight balance for more than 3 times? 1 time enough le......

      By weighing balance, I meant a non electronic scale (imagine the see-saw)

      And also, by removing any ball from the balance, it automatically counted as another usage on the balance.

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,263 posts since Jul '07
    • yes, if you think about it.

      reveal the answer later.. but i think Choco knows the answer already

  • Chris1988's Avatar
    1,287 posts since Dec '06
  • Detached's Avatar
    4,654 posts since Sep '04
    • Originally posted by ChoCoChips:

      put 6 balls a side, the heavier one is what we want.

      divide the heavier group into 2 groups of 3.

      den weigh again, and there'll be a heavier side again.

      den from that side, pick 2 random balls and weigh them against each other.

      if 2 same weight, the one left behind heavier lo.

      if 2 no same weight, den obviously the heavier one is there.

      hurhur

      Wrong. Firstly, you don't know if the odd ball is lighter or heavier, so you wouldn't know which group of 6 does the odd ball belongs to.

      And if we were to use your method and weigh 2 random balls out of the final 3 - we still wouldn't know which is the odd ball... Simply because.. WE DON'T KNOW IF THE ODD BALL IS LIGHTER OR HEAVIER! icon_biggrin.gif

       

      Edit: But still good attempt there, I guessed the exact same thing as you when I first chanced upon this question

      Edited by Detached 03 Sep `08, 10:13PM
  • and chips 嫂
    ChoCoChips's Avatar
    7,318 posts since Jun '06
    • Originally posted by skythewood:

      yes, if you think about it.

      reveal the answer later.. but i think Choco knows the answer already


      i where got so smart

      hurhur

  • and chips 嫂
    ChoCoChips's Avatar
    7,318 posts since Jun '06
    • Originally posted by Detached:

      Wrong. Firstly, you don't know if the odd ball is lighter or heavier, so you wouldn't know which group of 6 does the odd ball belongs to.

      And if we were to use your method and weigh 2 random balls out of the final 3 - we still wouldn't know which is the odd ball... Simply because.. WE DON'T KNOW IF THE ODD BALL IS LIGHTER OR HEAVIER! icon_biggrin.gif


      oh ya hor.

      weighs a lil different!

      aiyo!

      wait ar.

      lemme think abt it and fine tune my ans

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,263 posts since Jul '07
    • divide the 27 balls into 3 groups, A, B, C

      Step 1: compare group A & group B

      results/conclusion: if A is heavier. the heavier ballis in set A.

                                      if B is heavier. the heavier ballis in group B.

                                      If A and B same weight, ball is in group C.

      divide the group with heavier ball into 3 sets, A, B, C

      Step 2: compare set A & set B

      results/conclusion: if A is heavier. the heavier ballis in

      group A.

                                      if B is heavier. the heavier ballis in set B.

                                      If A and B same weight, ball is in set C.

      divide the set with heavier ball into 3 balls, A, B, C

      Step 3: compare ball A & ball B

      results/conclusion: if A is heavier. the heavier ballis in ball A.

                                      if B is heavier. the heavier ballis in ball B.

                                      If A and B same weight, ball is in ball C.

       

  • and chips 嫂
    ChoCoChips's Avatar
    7,318 posts since Jun '06
    • im thinking abt grps of 4 one.

      1st group against 2nd group, den 3rd group. from there can see which one heavier/lighter.

      den from that group take 2 against 2.

      but i'll need more than 3 tries.

      tsk tsk tsk

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