Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:

posting this in bar and saying you're female, i think your mail box gonna get flooded

i cant post this in aunt agony can I.

Originally posted by ORIGAMIST:

find something to do to keep your mind buzy ...

i have. i have consulted with a counsellor. she advised me to keep myself busy and tire myself. I've been running a lot and at the end of the day, even as tired as anyone could be, I would still be horny. Is there any medication to stop this?

How can I stop this urge?

FYI I am a female

I've recently just met this guy. not officially meet. Like bum into each other, smile and move on. I usually hang out in the lib. and he's often here too. When I see him, my heart beats faster and my palms slightly sweats. I saw him glancing at me and smile. What is this feeling? I can't sleep at night thinking of this guy. I never told anyone about these, kind of shy.

Ya lor, it's unfortunate. But not confirm the tiger killed the guy. Only bite wounds and the body was found in the tiger compound. Who knows skali the monkeys run amok and bit the guy to death.

Originally posted by xiiaostarry:

nope o.o

u got 1 friend who went through the same thing as my friend?

yup. And your nick is very similar to a classmate of mine too. I mean she calls herself xiao ai or something too. I thought you were her. Sorry for the mistake.

Originally posted by xiiaostarry:

Go & seek professional medical consultation bah..

 

I had a friend who behaves like this in Sec Sch..Just that she will make slight cuts on her hand with a penknife..She always tells us that she feels shiok whenever she did that..Esp. if she can see the blood..This proves that she is alive or what =.='''

 

Perhaps TS just find that is a way for her to release her emotion by scratching herself bah?

 

Seriously..seek medical consultation..Don't be like my friend..Her hand is full of scar marks after a few yrs & she has got to wear long sleeve clothings just to hide those scars

were you in bgss?

In my family, only my paternal grandmother Malay. Yet in I/C all malay. My father say gd for sch subsidies.

TWO MLM SCAMMERS

Teach unorthodontic tactics

Steven Ho(Carrying dog)

Raymond Loh(At the back)

Originally posted by simpleboi:

The facts are that there are people who want the products as I have friends who wants them too..

Actually, even $100 every month extra is a good side income.. and to me, at this point, I am doing it for my family's security, and also able to help others do so.

Another mentality of brainwashed MLM-er, Help others. But when I declined, keep forcing me to buy their useless products. Not saying it's you. But in general of brainwashed MLM-ers.

Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:

Principals who put down students have no place in educating our young

Sunday, 20 January 2008, 9:44 am | 307 views

By Andrew Loh

‘It is very sad when your principal doesn’t have faith in you and will not give you a chance.’

- Student from school where the principal’s “apply for ITE” remarks sparked outrage.

That sums it up for me. This is the result of what adults can do to children with unthinking and insensitive words. And when such words come from a school principal, it is unforgiveable, really.

The principal had “advised” some 27 Sec 5 students “ to seek transfers to the Institute of Technical Education (ITE), since they were unlikely to do well in the O levels this year.” (Straits Times)

The “advice” was given on the very first day of the new school year.

 

The Straits Times further reported:

“To back her point, she even flashed the girls’ detailed N-level grades on the board in class using an overhead projector; she also stressed that she wanted 100 per cent passes in her school.”

Note: She “stressed” that she wanted 100 per cent passes in her school.

Principal’s impression of ITE and ITE students

From the words, behaviour and tone of words used by the principal, I can’t help but feel that she has a very poor impression of the ITE and ITE students. Which makes me wonder if the principal is aware of how far the ITE has progressed.

In a speech at the opening of the ITE’s new College East campus in 2006, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said:

“ITE itself has grown into an institution that has an international reputation for excellence in technical training. As a World Bank report put it, “ITE has achieved significant breakthrough by establishing itself as a post-secondary institution. It has effectively rebuilt and transformed its former ‘vocational’ institutes into top-line educational colleges. ITE has given skilled occupations a new social and economic importance, creating viable careers for its graduates.”

If that praise was not enough, the ITE also won the Harvard Award from Harvard University in 2007 which “recognises the world’s most transformative government programme with profound impact on citizens’ lives.” (Asia One)

Education minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam added his praise by describing the ITE as a “jewel in Singapore’s education system”.

Asia One also reported:

“The chairman of ITE’s board of governors, Mr Bob Tan, said a unique feature was its nurturing quality. ‘When students come to the ITE, they have a self-image of people who cannot make it. It’s a matter of raising their confidence.”

It’s The End – if educators and ministers put students down

Instead of taking a firm stand in support of the students, Minister of State for Education Lui Tuck Yew steps in and defended the principal. According to the Straits Times:

“Speaking to reporters after a teachers’ investiture at the National Institute of Education, Rear-Admiral (NS) Lui said it was important to separate the ‘tone’ from the ’substance’ of the message.”

The minister was also quoted as saying:

‘We can calibrate the tone, we can soften it, improve on the presentation, but there is a lot of work to be done between Secondary 4 and Secondary 5.’

‘Principals need to do their job to convey this message to the students and teachers to do their part to challenge them, set high goals and to help them achieve these goals.’

I am amazed that the minister would put his weight behind the principal’s words and actions – “conveying this message”, as he put it. Flashing the students’ results with an overhead projector in class? Stressing that she wanted 100 per cent passes? Telling the students to apply to the ITE because “they were unlikely to do well in the O levels this year”?

And doing all these on the very first day of school?

Conveying the message indeed.

The minister then goes on:

“’We will be hit by storms, there will be waves, we will be lashed by the winds… but we can be responsible for how we respond to it.”

The minister seems to have forgotten that it is not only how each person responds to challenges that is important but also the way leaders encourage and inspire others in times of challenges that are just as important, if not more so.

You do not try and get people to be ‘responsible’ by putting them down – especially when the people are young, impressionable students. And certainly, you do not do this in front of an entire class by flashing their results using an overhead projector!

Irony – PM Vs Principal

In his speech at the College East campus, PM Lee described an example of an ITE student, Sairin Sani, who did well:

“Last year, I visited ITE College Central (MacPherson) and met one ITE graduate, Sairin Sani. He came from the Normal stream and had little interest in his studies while he was in school. But his life turned around when he enrolled in ITE.

He took to ITE’s hands-on training like a duck to water, and regained his confidence and zest for learning. From ITE, Sairin went on to polytechnic and then to NTU, where he graduated with first-class honours in Mechanical and Production Engineering. He is now pursuing his dream career in aerospace engineering.”

PM Lee also described the achievements of another ITE alumni, Johnny Tng. PM Lee would make a better school principal, it seems. He related real life examples of ITE students who did well in what obviously was an attempt to encourage and inspire present and future ITE students.

This is what the school principal should have done, instead of her demoralizing and disheartening rhetoric of doom and gloom.

The bigger picture

The importance of ITE graduates cannot be discounted, especially in our small population of Singaporeans. As the Minister for Community, Youth and Sports, Vivian Balakrishnan, said:

“Together as a cohort, ITE students will form up to 25% of our future workforce. You have a significant role to play in our economy and to the building of our nation.” (MCYS)

25% of our workforce will be made up of ITE graduates. Now, that is something to think about – especially for teachers, instructors and yes, principals. Yet, that should not be the reason why we should refrain from demoralising our students. The only reason why we must be patient in nurturing and inspiring our young, perhaps, should be because it is simply a joy to mould young minds, see them succeed and make something of themselves in life.

Now, that calls for a breed of special people dedicated and dedicating their lives to the task - teachers, principals, parents and friends.

My last words will be for ITE students themselves. And here I would like to quote PM Lee and blogger I Am Not A Geek:

PM Lee:

“The Singapore education system will provide many avenues to suit different needs, with many routes up and many ways to succeed.”

Blogger I Am Not A Geek:

“I wish those Sec 5 girls all the best. Do not give up, the ‘O’ level is actually easier than you think, trust me! Just work hard, and never listen to people who tell you that you are a gone case.”

Principals who put down students have no place in educating our young - no matter how you “separate the tone from the substance”.

This is actually common in sec schs. My sis kana. I was deemed as a maid in China as sg will have no more jobs for uneducated ppl. I was 14 then. Yet, I made it to Poly.

My teachers called me cannot make it. Not just me, its the whole class. They even said that they abandoned us.  And called us Loser class. Well, most teachers in our sec sch.

This is common, what's the point of making it a big fuss?

P.S. If go ITE so what? It's as if its the end of the world.

Originally posted by simpleboi:

I am not struggling to defend this industry.. Just correcting misconceptions on the company and the business by stating facts. There is nothing to defend and not desperate for anything too lol.

Yup, I can easily leave and ignore.. that's what normally I do anyway.. coz we do not change others, we just look for those who are willing to partner and work together etc. :)

If I said I only earned $1 from this industry, does it give more credibility? Or need to say $1000000? Anyway it's not just the money.. plenty other things can make money also...

So what have you been doing for the past few post? Must remember facts are NOT what your company tell you.

I can gurantee that so far, you've earned not more than $100.

Originally posted by charlize:

Does she get Kraft cheese?

ah.hahaha. up to her.

Charlize close.

Beautiful951 you are right. You wanna redeem you treat?

nope. Along the way to the top, the mice fall one by one, so at the top is the deaf mouse.

SO you find the moral of the story yet?

Originally posted by FireIce:

the cheese on the blazing building no melt meh?

The cheese is anti-heat one.

depends on people personal choice. We cant judge something because the majority of people practice a certain thing.

I personally know a guy who was a muslim and coverted to Buddism. There's also a trend of malays muslims converting to christianity. So can't really say.

There was a colony of starving mice. Every mouse was starving, but wait a minute, there's a big lump of cheese that could feed the colony for a long time. However, it is at the top of a blazing building. To get the cheese down, a little push is needed.

So 10 mice opted to go up in the burning building to and push the cheese down. This was MISSION IMPOSSIBLE to the colony. Along the way up, one by one, the mouse failed. Except one who proved to be the colony's hero who got to the top and pushed the cheese down. After he safely returned back to the ground. The mice were intrigued and asked him on how did he managed to get to the top of the building. The hero mouse kept silent and continued eating his share of the cheese. The probed him again and again. But this mouse ignored them as if they never existed.

Then one mouse tapped him on his should and the hero mouse turned. The actually thing is, the hero mouse was deaf.

Get the moral of the story. Who can guess 1st I will treat you to dinner.

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Originally posted by charlize:

I have met people who worked for companies who are relatively well off.

 

I have met people who started their own business selling stuff who are relatively well off.

 

But I have yet to really meet anybody who is from an MLM company that is well off.

 

Maybe I live in a shell and know too little people.

Maybe,

I've met people who is from an MLM company that are well off, the pioneers and the manipulative ones.

Originally posted by charlize:

Actually with the recession coming, I think a lot of people will be suckered into joining MLMs.

 

Desperate times calls for desperate measures.

gd one.

MLM-ers, bunch of despos.

Look at this guppy(Simple boi) trying to drown itself in a pool of anti mlmers. We may be biased in our opinions, yet you still struggle to defend your pathetic industry. Why so desperate? A confident person would just leave and ignore what others might say.

Anywho, how much have you earned from this industry?

Originally posted by simpleboi:

???

I talking bout the products not bout the business, have u tried the products?

There are people who even go around to look for others to get some products coz its thats good, and they automatically want to get the products themselves and they are not doing the business at all.. I have many friends like that, and this is coz they love the products..

I know. When I was in VE and so many others like me in other mlm co.s, we would think, Wah! Product is the best. Very good. It is after we left that we realised that the products are worth nothing.

Another key of mlm, friends LOVE THE PRODUCTS. Like, maybe , but LOVE? It's really exagerated.

Originally posted by simpleboi:

It's not no matter what. Impossible to reach anywhere if dun do anything or keep doing the wrong things.

You will only reach there if you build it consistently and continuously, and most imptly to put down your ego and willing to learn from scratch and to change to breakthrough oneself. And of coz to leverage on the system provided.

It is never easy, requires a lot of work and learning and down periods, but it's simple.. and it's the perseverance too that counts.

Another MLM speech.

Look at the broader view and MLM pyramid is very clear.

skali someone sabo you. Give anonymous tip off.

It's possible to make that kind of money, but if that guy's claim is true, than wouldn't be weird on why the hell would he want to offer biz opportunity to you?!!! Alarms going off!

Originally posted by simpleboi:

I can wait for 10 yrs for that person if I need to and he is interested. In the meantime, there are others who were the same 10 yrs ago, and now able to qualify etc that I can look for.

Btw, in Malaysia, 30 yrs, there are already people now who are the 2nd generation, i.e. their parents started building when they werent even born, and now, they started building and with new people, new friends, they too able to make it.. so its the same everywhere.

How few are these people that you've mentioned. MLM has been promising people that they would reach there no matter what.

Another brainwashed MLM-er